This is so dumb. Esther was at that place and at that time fulfilling Gods purpose to save the Jews, neither Caine nor Meyers are here to save Gods people. 28 following. But it should also be motivated by a desire to see false teachers come to repentance and faith. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Youre sitting behind a keyboard, hiding behind the well others did the confronting for me argument, which just isnt in scripture. Together with her husband, Nick, they founded Equip & Empower Ministries, A21, Propel Women, and Zoe Churches. So we can correct any mistakes before permanent post? Good night read your Bible berean and how about not twisting it when you do so. Christine Caine Reveals She Had Cancer for Nearly Three Months; Says God Healed Her Body, Christian college asks Supreme Court to stop Biden's trans dorm directive, M.I.A. I feel like its almost life and death in this hour. 3:8) In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. They called people out TO THEIR FACES, whether in speech or by letter. And so began the journey. Watch on. I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven.. they apply to Cain and Meyer. I wanted to be open: drifting isnt always Im leaving Christianity, Im going to start doing sex, drugs, rock and roll Drifting can be as subtle as taking your foot off the gas, going: Its too costly to keep pressing on, Im just going to slow down a bit. We need to examine our hearts. I think this is a site for pharisees. then I realized you are in a bad twisted place.. and if I could meet you have coffee with you see your life then that would be confirmed. Perhaps this is where we are talking past each other. Recalcitrance in the face of correction is dangerous, and it is why the apostles would often apply some of the most bone-chilling descriptors to unrepentant false teachers. Stage 1 or stage 4 cancer was not going to impact the ability of the surgeon to cut my throat I wanted to be delivered from this situation, but ten weeks later, I discovered God wanted me to walk through this.". She has preached at the aforementioned Hillsong, T.D. Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. That's why Hope 103.2 exists: to bring the message of hope to our community through a family-friendly, safe listening environment. Its a story that hasnt been easy to share. Penso que isso seja inveja por Deus usar essas mulheres poderosamente!!! This silly arguement is what pro-female pastors (Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, etc.) John says that the congregation has a responsibility to refuse all support for such teachers. The reality is that while these religions are easily identifiable in places like the Congo, Haiti and Mongolia, they arent so easily identified here. And I wont get into the Catholic church and its covering up of abuse, or twisting of scripture to idolize the Pope and Mary. YOU have an issue. In other words, false teachers become subject to the churchs discipline. There are no super-Christians, theres an amazing God. She said the most powerful tool to overcoming shame is knowing how much God values us. This not only applies to those whom we give our money. With a heart to share Christ and love people, Joyces messages help people in all walks of life to grow in their faith, learn to study the Bible, find healing from the wounds of life, get answers to lifes questions and encounter the love of God in a powerful way. Here are the lessons the Church needs to learn, The Profile: In-depth interviews with hundreds of inspiring Christians. To my family, when I chose to put Christ first, I was turning my back on everything: on tradition, on culture, on them. Why Cant Us Men Tell Each Other How We Feel. Mariners Church. Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth (Revelation 2:14-16). And if I could get to a place where Im thinking: How did I get here? theres got to be a lot of other people going, How did I get here? If you have been healed of an abusive past while listening to Christine, thank God and move out of this pagewhich is what I am doing now. What name have I called whom? 2005 - sept. 20105 ans 9 mois. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. Have the fruit of the Spirit in your marriage. It cost me everything to go forward with Jesus. Study of the two commandments Jesus left us would be better use of your time. When Christine was a youth pastor at the Hillsong Church, she attended a workshop on abuse to get ideas about how to help people. Where does it say its ok to have others do the confronting for you? One of the character requirements of the pastor is that he not be pugnaciousthat he not be the kind of guy who walks around with a theological chip on his shoulder just waiting for someone to knock it off (1 Tim. Breaking the theological bricks and unlearning lies, Report: Former Hillsong pastors say they were threatened by Brian Houston, The Progressive Disease of Spiritual Deception in Our Time. I think a lot of my past had really caught up with me, and so I was very sceptical about the love and the grace of God. I pray those with ears to hear will find their way out. 21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? I had to really get to a place where I felt Id made good headway in living a shame-free life, to be able to put the stuff that Ive learnt in writing. I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life, she said. Why do you think you receive this feedback? God is relational but He is also Almighty God, Yahweh and there are no other gods before Him. Then you cant judge anything outside of your sphere, and you judge me because I do make a judgement, I dont need to see C. Cain personally to hear one of her sermons or Joyce Meyer either, just pick up one of their books, watch one of their videos and their words either accuses or excuses their actions. Some writers suggest that she was the more energetic of the two, and perhaps had the stronger character. Its taken her a lifetime, but world-travelling preacher, author and rescuer of trafficking victims, Christine Caine, is finally free from shame. I know several women pastors that teach to men. This Hillsong Bible teacher overcame a childhood of sexual abuse to become a fearless crusader for Christ in the fight against human trafficking. But if you are the kind of person who always shrinks back from conflicteither because youre afraid or because you dont want to risk offending people or risk your chance at gathering a megachurchif you always shrink back from the conflict that sound doctrine brings, then you are not qualified to be a pastor. Im an unwanted kid, second generation migrant, marginalised. How did they respond? And on my not-so-great days I can spiral into a pit like anyone else. What do you spend most of your time worrying about? Luke 19:39-40 3 9Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, Teacher, rebuke your disciples! 40I tell you, he replied, if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.. I have also lost friends to cults due to their lack of knowledge of the scriptures for themselves, and it breaks my heart every day. Evangelist Christine Caine's 60-Second Testimony. When you're first abused, you're filled with shame about what is happening to you. So heres the question we have to ask and answer anytime we are refuting error. BTW.I love the fact that not only yourself, but many women on here reply by teaching which word she supposedly is teaching wrong. Listen in as Christine Caine opens up about her past and how God can use you no matter what's been done to you or what you've done to others. What I went through in 2016-2017, I think God was preparing me for what everyone else was going to go through in 2020. They only care for themselves. I know because the simple fact that you believe That word is the same for us today we are responsible to test the spirits, research and hold everything up to Gods Word for comparison. Additionally, Christine has close relationships with Beth Moore and Priscilla Shirer, frequently sharing the stage or partnering with both. People are afraid of what they do not understand. SO MANY THINGS WE CALL BIBLICAL ARE JUST CULTURAL, For those that have not come across you before, tell us a little about yourself. "God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. All of us are prone to drifting if we do not stay connected to Jesus, who is this hope we have as an anchor for our soul.. Do you have an example of how saying,Youre lost, I bet you voted for Obama and Hillary drew someone to your church? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Angels, Demons, Spiritual Warfare Seems to me that a dozen apostles brought the message to millions. I have felt my fervor for studying and deepening my walk with the Lord be VERY attacked by your making a similar comment. ~ Christine Caine. Oh what horror! My goal, in my openness, is to say: God can use anyone. I believe theres a heaven and hell, that Jesus Christ died on the cross, was buried and rose again for our sins. Theres no room for compromising. 2022 by Berean Research. Worse, she enjoys teaching young women to step into leadership roles that scripture forbids and is unashamed to say so. Is tearing down others and their ministries winning souls to Christ? How many are waiting for us to go to them while we wait for them to come to us? That is the CLEAR difference. As I mentioned yesterday, pastoral ministry is not merely a building up, but also a tearing down. Christine Caine (ne Caryofyllis, 23 September 1966) is an Australian activist, evangelist, author, and international speaker.. Caine and her husband Nick are best known for founding The A21 Campaign in 2008, a 501(c)(3) non-profit, non-governmental organization that combats human trafficking. Christine Caine. Those who respond to biblical correction reveal that they have the Spirit and are under the command of Jesus. I started volunteering to clean up the youth hall. Seriously? I needed to feel this I had to walk through my own valley, but their path seemed so much harder and darker than mine," says Caine. They preach the word. What Christ? In Apollos case, his deficient teaching was an error of omission. Its been shown over and over how these two (Caine, Meyer) twist scripture, and theyre supporters keep buying it. My life was as far away from God at that point as you could imagine [but] I went into this seminar, and this dude speaks the gospel in a way that was just so profound to me. - Christine Caine. It is difficult not to be inspired by her passion for Jesus and her unwavering belief that God is still in the business of doing what the Bible says hes always done. The word says in the end times the ignorant will not be able to understand or see the miracles and the signs and wonders that the Lord is doing because they have been blinded to it. I dont see you recommending ANYONE else. When Christians call out false teachings, teachers and practices theyre doing what is commanded in scripture, or havent you read how you are to deal with those that say theyre teachers, but their not? Purpose Driven Quotes. I write this as a Baptist, and so I would argue that the excommunication is a congregational responsibility and not something that pastors can impose alone (e.g., 1 Cor. 21Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. You mean judgemental? We have to undergo a process of restoration to have the wounds of our soul healed, and to allow Jesus to touch those dark places. Thales. It sounds exhausting and it would be if I was striving but its a response to the invitation of God. Christine Caine is an ordained pastor of her church in Australia, and also regularly speaks and travels without her husband. I have no idea who it is that wrote this but you are a mess. Warn them, lovingly. We rebuke it because we dont want people to be misled. Totally agree with her being a false teacher and not a pastor as its not Biblical. 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